I use Varget and 69 SMK to shoot sub MOA 8 shot groups in the same rifle. Is anyone using CFE 223 powder? I kind of stumbled into this deal blind - I had seen load data on the Hogden web site and then our small local gun & etc store posted that they had some in stock. 357 magnum - Free ebook download as PDF File (. Available in 1 lb. I've found some data including on the Hodgdon site, seems different 55gr bullets require different starting loads. Hunting and Shooting with the Modern Sporting Rifle (AR-15/AR-10) Hodgdon CFE 223 I am working off some load data comparisons and then working with load data. Hodgdon offers several of powders suitable for the 224 Valkyrie, including CFE 223 and the IMR Enduron series, all known for limiting jacket fouling. What is the current load Data for CFE 223 with a 55gr bullet? Is the max load a compressed load? Did you work your load up from min. Or we could tell you simply take a new Lapua 6BR case, add a CCI 450 primer, drop in 30 grains of Varget, top it with a Fowler 80gr FB bullet at the lands, and shoot it. The loads listed here were developed using standard commercial brass. The nomenclature CFE standing for Copper Fouling Eraser. 4 grains for bolt actions. 223 Remington/5. Was hoping some of you have load data for the 75gr Hornady BTHP. 56 Nato round like ones from Lake City, Radway Green, and others? I can understand why the reloading manuals wont post data as some might load 223 to 5. It provides similar effectiveness to the 7. 307 Win and possibly decent in. I have velocitys and load data for Berger 70 VLD and 40 grain VMax if interested. 62x51 NATO cartridges. Jason Baney has acquired a. Jim, I have IMR 4064 that I usually use in. First time posting. 223 Rem-ington or 5. I am loading the. Just bought a pound of CFE223 and some Hornady 55gr FMJs. As new as CFE-223 is I doubt anyone has done any real work with mil-surp bullets and it. Create custom ballistic tables using our online calculators at. 223 load), but the burn rate struck me as something likely to be excellent in. Top speeds for those bullets come from propellants such as TAC, IMR 4064, CFE 223, IMR 4895, Reloder 15 and A2460. 5 grains W-748 60 grain Hornady V-Max 24 grain AR-Comp 55 grain FMJBT All in all I find the CFE-223 to be the best powder for my. com Always comply with all local, state, federal, and international laws. There are a lot of loads and information on 6. 223 Remington AI. The new powder is called CFE 223 (Copper Fouling Eraser). 223 caliber has evolved from the battlefield AR-15 platform to popular sporting use in varmint and predator hunting, match competition, and all-around plinking fun. 5 Grendel here. 223 loads with IMR 4350. A database of. I have yet to find the time to test fire the rounds for accuracy, but based on everything I've read I convinced I just need to find which load gives me results that match or exceed my RL15 accuracy. 2 MOA or better) when fire-forming with his Lilja-barreled 20 PPC. INDICATES MAXIMUM LOAD — USE WITH CAUTION Rifle Data 60-62 GRAIN BULLETS CFE 223 23. V-MAX bullets in my new rifle. I notice the pressures are pretty high compared to 335 and 322 so I am wondering what pet loads anyone has come up with. Think I am going to try that new CFE 223 powder if anyone has experience with that. I actually use the 450's on all my 223 loads. This spherical rifle powder propellant is versatile enough to use in a wide variety of popular cartridges, including the 223 and 22-250 Remington, the 204 Ruger and the 308 Winchester. This is a discussion on CFE 223 Hornady 55 gr soft point within the Reloading forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Considering trying some CFE223 and wanting some opinions. 293” at 100 yards. I use it in my 6. I'm kind of curious what these same loads will do in my Bolt. Here's some 224 Valkyrie load data to get you started. This is my last work up with the CFE. One of the powders I tried this week was the new CFE 223 from Hodgdon and it gave me a some trouble with high pressures; in fact it was the worst pressure problems I've ever had with any load I've ever put together. works extremely well in the 223 Remington, 17 Remington, 22 PPC and or course, the 308 Winchester, plus many more. I'll be using an 18" 1-7 Bison 223 Wylde. 9-48gr across once I found my OCW for this combo that I'm running. Johnny's Reloading Bench 36,409 views. 223 Rem AI only has about 8% more capacity than the parent case, the best thing to do is to start with a known, good load for the. 224 Valkyrie. 38" with 5 shots into 3 holes at 100 yards. This spherical rifle powder propellant is versatile enough to use in a wide variety of popular cartridges, including the 223 and 22-250 Remington, the 204 Ruger and the 308 Winchester. Hornady Grendel 123 Cfe 223 Load Data is often a preferent choose most of us. I have heard somewhere that CFE223 and Alliant Power Pro 2000 MR are the same powder, but can't confirm that - their (different) mfgr/distributor load data certainly isn't identical, but they are both slower powders, with similar claims of higher FPS. I would not want a compressed load in my gun, but thats just me. load data for 44 mag or spl. In some instances starting loads are also listed. Affordable and 1. all signs were good with marginal accuracy. Sometimes in today's powder-shortage market it comes down to finding the best that is actually in stock on the shelves of your dealer. *Disclaimer: The load data contained on this site is intended for use with Barnes Bullets. 204 rugars, both 12 twists, and I have had nothing but good luck with the Federal load with the 39gr Blitz Kings. 223 loads with 50 and 60 grain V-Max bullets. Occasionally, we will temporarily publish load data on this page when a bullet becomes available and is not yet listed in the latest edition of the handbook. Springfield XD Forum. 6 all the way to 27. 223 load, I loaded up some 6. Tried the new Hodgdon CFE223 Powder - posted in Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting: Well, I loaded up some rounds using the new Hodgdon CFE223 powder and headed to the range this past Saturday. There are two options for acquiring. CFE 223 yields top velocities in many cartridges such as the 204 Ruger, 223 Remington/5. 0 grains as a starting point and a max of 27. I tried exact same load based off some comments he posted and my. Not at home at the moment, but also have a load for this with Win 760. Load data was generated using Quick Load a 24 inch barrel a COAL (cartridge over all length) of 2. Hotter loads will wear the barrel slightly more, plus use extra powder. 62 x 54 Load for CFE223 that I've been working with. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get. According to the author, he wrote "In the. Varget or CFE-223 would work best for that weight range. This is a discussion on First Test of Hodgdon CFE 223 - Beware within the Ammunition forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; I've been running some ladder tests with a few powders in my GAP. 308 Win if I can squeeze some extra velocity out of my Berger 210/215 load. ** SVC = Steel Valley Casting C = Coated RN = Round Nose CN = Conical Nose WC = Wad Cutter SWC = Semi Wad Cutter 380 Auto: 100grn SVC RN-C 3. 223 Remington (Somchem Data) loads. New Powder Hodgdon's CFE came out and shows some loads for a NEW PowderCFE Pistol. I went up to 25. M1 Garand 30-06 Loading Data Suggestions All Loads To Be Used At Your Own Risk. Hornady Grendel 123 Cfe 223 Load Data is often a preferent choose most of us. 5 grains of CFE 223 powder. All the reloading books I have show data for 223 loads. When I get a chance to chrono some loads I'll share my thoughts. I loaded some 223 with 53 grain flat base SMK's using this powder. I am saving what's left of my H335 for M1 plinking ammo as the research I've done indicates that cfe may be a bit on the slow side for the Garand. The lead SWC bullet was Master Blaster Moly coated. Tried the new Hodgdon CFE223 Powder - posted in Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting: Well, I loaded up some rounds using the new Hodgdon CFE223 powder and headed to the range this past Saturday. 308 Winchester - Accurate, high velocity and very little copper fouling. For the 120gr TSX, I would begin with the start load listed in Hornady's data, and build a trend line with your chronograph or magneto. I've got 6 manuals and can only find data for a 62gr jacketed bullet in the Lee manual but only for Accurate and Win 748 which I don't have. Load Data Now Available Online for CFE™223 Reload data for CFE™223 is available for 27 different cartridges with 147 loads. 223, including some load data and reasons to load an AR and bolt gun differently. Hodgdon CFE. 56 with Hornady bullets. Reload load data 6mm powder bullets Hodgdon Vihtavuori Lapua We could fill a book with 6mm BR reloading recipes, case prep secrets, accurizing tips, and miscellaneous voodoo. 56 for the AR? I see CFE 223 on the shelf quite a bit, as well as ARComp, and use it in 30-06, 308 and 223. Please buy it from trusted store. works extremely well in the 223 Remington, 17 Remington, 22 PPC and or course, the 308 Winchester, plus many more. See loading data for this powder at www. In your case Hodgdon CFE 223 actually is a good powder and you can use Hodgdon on-line data to experiment with as previously posted. I will say you'll get good velocity. 6gr and a max of 49. I'm moving on to another project within the next month. Go to the Hodgdon load data web site, I found it their. Spreadsheet for reloading - LongRangeHunting Online Magazine Here is a link to a spreadsheet that you can input your chronograph data in to get statistical data out of your testing. Handloaders can have a ball working 224 Valkyrie loads. TBSADavid is also working with it. 223 Rem AI and we will be adding data to this page over time. Using a Sierra MatchKing 168gr bullet, Hodgdon lists a minimum load of 46. Hoping to find a decent all-in-one powder that will do. 357 magnum. 223 Remington and then work. 3031? about to just split the difference between 150gr and 170gr data? I really want a starting point for CFE223 because I'm looking for a powder that will measure well in a Dillon powder measure but also work for 223, 243, 308 with 175gr smk and 8mm mauser I already loaded a tesst batch of BLC2. Introducing new CFE BLK Gun Powder from Hodgdon. My supplier told me that I was to use the CFE-223 data but start with a 10% reduction and work up. Or we could tell you simply take a new Lapua 6BR case, add a CCI 450 primer, drop in 30 grains of Varget, top it with a Fowler 80gr FB bullet at the lands, and shoot it. 243 and 6 other calibers. Here's some 224 Valkyrie load data to get you started. 223 load), but the burn rate struck me as something likely to be excellent in. I can't answer your question about sensitivity as I've only been using it for 2 weeks. I know there are thousands of good 223 Rem loads available, but I'm wondering if anyone knows of a link or forum where they describe in detail the particulars of loads? For instance, there is a huge difference between great loads for a 9 versus a 14. Gonna try to duplicate it as close as I can get. Rifle: Savage 12FV with PacNor SSSM 1:8 27" barrel, Leupold 8. The bullet companies will only worl with their bullet and the powder companies use the more popular bullets to start when developing data for a new product. charge or just start at 27. Well, on with the CFE 223 stuff. Hodgdon CFE223 Smokeless Powder 8 Lbs is now available from Midsouth. 375 H&H bolt guns years ago, and switched to the AR platforms for reduced recoil. Load data for the 223 AI, especially with the heavies, seems to be sketchy at best, but I found a couple loads that I wanted to work towards. Reloading 300 Blackout: Ready To Rock I loaded Accurate 1680, or Hodgdon’s H110 powder for quite a bit of my 300 BLK testing with the Loki. I am just starting to work with it in both 223 and 308. 5 TCU, CFE-223 Powder: I emailed Hodgdon. 30 caliber bullets for medium-sized game. Spreadsheet for reloading - LongRangeHunting Online Magazine Here is a link to a spreadsheet that you can input your chronograph data in to get statistical data out of your testing. I spent a few weeks tracking down data from various sources. blurb on the 350 Remington Magnum and CFE 223, as. 56 NATO 60-62 gr. 9 rifle reloading data 8 indicates maximum load - use caution loads less than minimum charges shown are not recommended. If i load a 55 in a 6x45 i use the 60 graon data for a 223. Has anyone used either of these new powders in reloading. Sierra 55-grain fmj boat-tail bullets were seated to the center of their cannelures and crimped using a lee factory crimp die. 56 data and have problems with shooting it in a 223 chamber. The good news is that the. Cheers to Hodgdon for doing it yet again and giving us a powder that is not only safe for the loads that 300 BLK shooters demand, but keeping it clean and accurate as well. As with any reloading endeavor, the elimination of risk should be foremost on the loaders mind. It is essentially the same powder as the CFE-223. One of the powders I tried this week was the new CFE 223 from Hodgdon and it gave me a some trouble with high pressures; in fact it was the worst pressure problems I've ever had with any load I've ever put together. 293” at 100 yards. I'm seeing that CFE 223 is a tad slower burning. 50 3383 3050 86816 9875 100. This carbine would be used to gather data on Hodgdon’s new CFE BLK powder, which is formulated specifically for 300 BLK subsonic loads. 224"; NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS CFE 223 Load Data With. 224 HPBT, and need your most accurate load data. 308 Remington and the. They would be much better served with a ball powder like H335, or CFE 223, or a short cut extruded like 8208 XBR. containers. Bob Smith reports excellent accuracy (. 6 all the way to 27. I've only worked up one hunting load with it for my. This is a discussion on need load data 55gr vmax imr4064 within the Reloading forums, part of the Gunner Forum category; any body got any load data for using hornady 55gr V-max, with IMR 4064 powder?. Using bullets from Nosler BT, Hornady V-Max, Sierra HP, Barnes VG FB, Speer HP, Speer SP, Hornady HP. Based on their data for a 90 grain. 56, to hunting, a lot more with suppressors, and some custom AR-15 rifle action!. SPR SP Hodgdon CFE 223. It provides similar effectiveness to the 7. I had settled on CFE 223 since it shows to give good 13 Responses to Journey to Find a F-Class Load:. I included almost every Hodgdon, IMR, and Winchester propellant (from H322 to CFE 223) listed in the Hodgdon Annual Manual. 5 x 44 scope. I don't hunt much anymore so I'll use factory ammo and existing hand load data when I do. In for info, as CFE223 is on my list to try in the future, for both. 224"; NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS CFE 223 Load Data With. At 18 grains everything starts to wear out quicker and the load becomes dangerous. This is a discussion on Hodgdon CFE. 62mm NATO, plus many, many more. Hodgdon Leverevolution Powder Load Data >>>CLICK HERE<<< According to Hodgdon Powder Company information this versatile spherical rifle propellant If you go online to the Hodgdon reloading site, they provide CFE-223 loading data for the following cartridges: #104 Hodgdon LEVEREVOLUTION. 223 because my favorite IMR8208 was not available. Incredible load. 223 Rem loads and work up. works extremely well in the 223 Remington, 17 Remington, 22 PPC and or course, the 308 Winchester, plus many more. Being a spherical powder, metering is superbly accurate. Cheers to Hodgdon for doing it yet again and giving us a powder that is not only safe for the loads that 300 BLK shooters demand, but keeping it clean and accurate as well. No response. 300 AAC Blackout is also finding use with hunters, who may not have been able to legally hunt with. I dont consider Varget a great powder for anyone wanting to load any quantity of 223 on a progressive. When I do load developement for this powder, my primary concern will be one of safety. Does anybody have any advice or load data they are using with these powders?. I am at the point of charging my loads. This powder has issues in my testing and it won't group beyond 600 yds flat out won't group. 264 (100) grain ballistic tips. I've only worked up one hunting load with it for my. To that end, loaders should gradually increase charge weight from the starting load. Bullets from other manufacturers may not produce equivalent pressure or velocities; therefore, it is not recommended that this data be used with components other than as listed. of Quickload maximum loads, but does recognize the Quickload software tool as a good estimator of starting loads and theoretical ballistic output. 223 Remington, the top section of the table, below, shows standard load data, including the specific bullet, the powder and its maximum charge and the resulting muzzle velocity (MV). CFE 223 yields top velocities in many cartridges such as the 204 Ruger, 223 Remington/5. I tried to find some data for RL 15, but Alliant doesn't have any data for it and what I found on the internet was charges as low as 23. I bought a couple boxes of Hornady 75 gr. Click "Get Data" to view results. Has anybody used Hodgdon CFE 223 powder to load 6. Based on their data for a 90 grain. Along with I RECENTLY passionately advise the idea. First Test of Hodgdon CFE 223 - Beware. 223 50 grain VMax SPR SP Hodgdon CFE 223. Find what you need in four easy steps. I'm using lighter weight bullets to reduce the recoil due to the painful arthritis I have in my shoulders. 0 3133 43,300 PSI 27. 180" Suggested Bullet Use Suggested Bullet Use Maximum Loads Should Be Used With Caution - Always Start With Minimum Loads. The CFE-223 loads left the bore virtually new and unscathed w/ copper. 8 3329 51,300 PSI The 25gr powder load was a typo, it was meant to be 26. I worked up a batch of loads with it for my. My supplier told me that I was to use the CFE-223 data but start with a 10% reduction and work up. VMD value for Hodgdon CFE 223. com and in the Hodgdon Loading Guide located in our Load Data section. 223, including some load data and reasons to load an AR and bolt gun differently. 223 Rem-ington or 5. The following 30-06 Springfield and 308 Winchester (7. I loaded rounds in 5 different calibers. 56 Nato round like ones from Lake City, Radway Green, and others? I can understand why the reloading manuals wont post data as some might load 223 to 5. 223 using used PMC cases, Sierra 50 gr. I've only worked up one hunting load with it for my. Hodgdon offers several of powders suitable for the 224 Valkyrie, including CFE 223 and the IMR Enduron series, all known for limiting jacket fouling. Started seeing pressure signs around 25gr, even though it was within published loads. Versatile Powders: W231 Load Data. 750"; primer: Winchester SR; bullet diam. the use of heavier match grade bullets with very long ogives and high ballis- tic coefficients (BC) in a semi-automatic firearm at magazine friendly overall lengths. 45 were higher than Hodgdon's values, and were faster than CFE Pistol with the 230-grain bullets but not the 200-grain bullet. I've got 6 manuals and can only find data for a 62gr jacketed bullet in the Lee manual but only for Accurate and Win 748 which I don't have. The Hodgdon CFE 223 Spherical Rifle Propellant yields top velocities in a variety of cartridges, including the. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Now I find out that they dont make that round anymore, so Im forced to reload. Using the exterior top notch touchstones, so realizing this product any posh or maybe and in addition longer lasting. 223 Remington Rifle. Just bought a pound of CFE223 and some Hornady 55gr FMJs. The Mossberg’s skinny barrel felt hot enough to light a cigar after firing 10. 8 gr AA2230 with the 69 gr tmk gets me 2707, no signs of pressure half inch groups, with this AR that I was using when pressures get to high the primers show. Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums data is far better than anyone's "pet load" that you will get here. 157 Ballistic Coefficient. But with 55 and 62 grain FMJ generic bullets with a good crimp in the cannelure, CFE 223 has really outshot Varget and H4895 in my rifles. Based on their data for a 90 grain. According to the author, he wrote "In the. First Test of Hodgdon CFE 223 - Beware. 223 loads with IMR 4350. 3031 is awesome in both. When reloading, always obtain your load data directly from the source. * = Most accurate load tested ** = Compressed load " Because Nosler, Inc. Starting with the first cartridge, the. I use WC820 (like H110) for all of my magnum pistol loads and subsonic rifle loads. I can't answer your question about sensitivity as I've only been using it for 2 weeks. Hodgdon CFE 223. 8 3329 51,300 PSI The 25gr powder load was a typo, it was meant to be 26. Visit Hodgdon Reloading Data Center (www. CFE 223 was introduced in 2012, and CFE Pistol followed in 2014. ttsx or tsx. I have several powders, namely RL-15, Varget, H335, and H322. My goal was to reach 2300 FPS out of my 13" MGM barrel, as I have easily done using RL 7, which was below published maximum. Get tight groups, repeatable cloverleafs and uniform loads. berger bullets and fed gm205m primers. 56mm NATO, 22-250 Remington and the 308 Winchester/7. 223 Remington, this is a throwback to the fact that it was developed for use in the production of 5. choice of firearms and components used, no responsibility for the use of this data is implied or assumed. 250 OAL for optimum magazine feeding over 26. As with any reloading endeavor, the elimination of risk should be foremost on the loaders mind. 223 using four different bullets. First Test of Hodgdon CFE 223 - Beware. This ingredient, developed for use in military propellants, greatly deters copper fouling. 458 Socom Load Data; Load Data for 45 ACP 185. Anybody tried CFE 223 powder for loading 30-06 or other "unlisted" calibers yet? I know Hodgdon published data for 223, 308 Win, and etc. This Hodgdon Reloading Powder also has Copper Fouling Eraser that greatly reduces the amount of copper residue in the barrel. It's just slightly slower than Varget, and directly below CFE-223 on the burn rate chart. The bullet companies will only worl with their bullet and the powder companies use the more popular bullets to start when developing data for a new product. Anybody tried CFE 223 powder for loading 30-06 or other "unlisted" calibers yet? I know Hodgdon published data for 223, 308 Win, and etc. Modern Loading Data 9mm, 45 acp, 30-06. Squid: you could use BisQuick with 55's and be okay, so CFE 223 will handle 55's but once you go to 80's it just is all over the map : inconsistent performance regardless of Hodgdon or Hornady load data. Varget hits the sweet spot for the best performance in this cartridge. 223 round isn't fussy and shoots a lot of powders well. This offers a distinct advantage over the 223 Remington, where the same bullets must be single-fed. 223 load and their 69 gr bullet- meaning again, 5. CFE 223 load data? I just got some CFE 223 and federal small rifle primers to start making some ammo. 27 grains CFE-223 55 grain FMJBT 24. Based on tests with extended shot strings, Hodgdon claims that, by using CFE™223, match shooters, varmint hunters, and AR shooters can maintain accuracy for longer periods, with less barrel-cleaning time. Accuracy was great with Varget, but velocity was slow. I'm moving on to another project within the next month. Military brass can have less case capacity because of heavier construction, and often yields higher pressures. with 51 g I started at 48g. I was using the following data as Hodgon did not have data for the VMax specifically 55 GR. INDICATES MAXIMUM LOAD — USE WITH CAUTION Rifle Data 60-62 GRAIN BULLETS CFE 223 23. 6 all the way to 27. I have a 16" Lilja barrel that shoots well with the Hornady 123 SST factory loads. 308 Remington and the. Introducing new CFE BLK Gun Powder from Hodgdon. 5 I do believe it is near 3100fps out of the 16" barrel. My goal is to get the most accurate load using as little powder as possible. A database of. 62×39 Russian cartridges is about American as apple pie. The good news is that the. (Posted on 10/26/2016) CFE 223 & Everglades Ammo Review by Larry. 75 gr 223 load data, 75 hpbt tac, blc2 75gr hpbt 223 remington, cfe-223 and 75 bthp, h335 75 grain 223, reloading data for 556. 5 Grendel CFE 223 Load Data On Hogdon's Website I have seen several threads here and on other sites where people are using CFE 223 for the 6. I use it in my 6. The big question is that many folks use loads in the mid to upper 5's, which follows the data for. 0 3133 43,300 PSI 27. Loads for. use this data with alliant brand powders only. Is anyone using CFE 223 powder? I kind of stumbled into this deal blind - I had seen load data on the Hogden web site and then our small local gun & etc store posted that they had some in stock. Not at home at the moment, but also have a load for this with Win 760. The biggest advantage to using CFE in 223/5. Excellent performance in heavy. Favorite Pistol Load Data: **A Shooting Chrony Beta Master was used for testing. I recently acquired 500 Armscor 62gr FMJBT bullets for 223. where can I find this data or do I need to go buy a 4th book? Thanks, mj52 I went to Hodgdon's site and it gives me 2 different 55 gr bullets but not this one. load data for 44 mag or spl. When I go to Hogdon's site I don't see any loads listed for the 6. 62×39 mm Russian: Load development with 125 and 150 gr. I am aware of the warnings as to amount of powder to use to prevent high pressure. Looking to see if anyone has tried CFE223 in a 6. Jason Baney has acquired a. Load is slightly compressed. I've got a Cooper model 21 in 223 Remington coming today. I've got a good supply of LC brass, CFE 223, Varget, H322, and H335.